Requiring Allegiance to the flag

“I’ll put my foot down, so shall it be;

This is the land of the free!”

(Groucho Marx as Freedonian dictator Rufus T. Firefly in “Duck Soup”)

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Lee Lang
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Lee Lang(@lee-lang)
8 months ago

Was this Ken Paxton person ever young at all? He seems to have no memory whatsoever of what it’s like to be a kid.

They used to make us chant prayers in school and we all hated it. After a while you realise that you are essentially mumbling to yourself at length.

Forced alliegance with the implicit threat of punishment for anybody who dares object. Gosh that sounds a bit like that awful China I keep hearing about.

This won’t foster respect or love for anything but it will foster boredom, indifference and resentment but maybe the plan is to break their will until they are in effect robots.

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8 months ago

It’s an absurdity. First of all, little kids don’t have the vaguest idea of what the words mean. Secondly, it violates the Constitution by indoctrinating belief in a god. Third, what could be more meaningless than pledging to a piece of cloth?

If you want to have a pledge, it should be to the Constitution. Kids also wouldn’t understand that, but when they are old enough to understand, at least it would make sense. Even better than a pledge would be a curricular commitment to teaching civics and critical thinking skills that help kids to understand the structure and function of the nation, how it can be lawfully changed, and how to interpret when it is desirable or appropriate to do so.

I have nothing against a national flag, but don’t ask me to worship a piece of cloth.

Last edited 8 months ago by JGorn
Noble Member
8 months ago

My wife disliked saying it because even as a child she was aware it was indoctrination. I don’t think she was made aware of her right to not say it, but she opted out anyway.

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